Legislature(2003 - 2004)

02/13/2003 11:35 AM House HES

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                   HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                      
     HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE                                                                        
            HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION                                                                                
                      February 13, 2003                                                                                         
                         11:35 A.M.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
TAPE HFC 03 - 19, Side A                                                                                                        
TAPE HFC 03 - 19, Side B                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Harris called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                      
to order at 11:35 A.M.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEMBERS                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative John Harris, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bill Williams, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Kevin Meyer, Vice-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Eric Croft                                                                                                       
Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Gary Stevens                                                                                                     
Representative Bill Stoltze                                                                                                     
Representative Jim Whitaker                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy Wilson                                                                                                     
Representative Carl Gatto                                                                                                       
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
Representative Cheryll Heinze                                                                                                   
Representative Mary Kapsner                                                                                                     
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Kelly Wolf                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carl Gatto                                                                                                       
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
Representative Mary Kapsner                                                                                                     
Representative Peggy Wilson                                                                                                     
Representative Kelly Wolf                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Carl Moses                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative John Coghill                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Representative David Guttenberg; Eddy Jeans, Manger, School                                                                    
 Finance and Facilities Section, Department of Education and                                                                    
 Early Development;                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 No participation on teleconference.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 GENERAL SUBJECT(S):                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        JOINT WITH THE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION                                                                         
          HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES                                                                           
                 OVERVIEW: FOUNDATION FORMULA                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The following overview was taken in log note format.  Tapes                                                                     
and handouts will be on file with the House Finance                                                                             
Committee through the 23rd Legislative Session, contact 465-                                                                    
2156. After the 23rd Legislative Session they will be                                                                           
available through the Legislative Library at 465-3808.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 LOG SPEAKER                DISCUSSION                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                            TAPE HFC 03 - 19, SIDE A                                                                       
 000 Co-Chair Harris        Convened the House Committee on Special                                                             
                            Committee on Education and the House                                                                
                            Health, Education & Social Services                                                                 
                            Committee with the House Finance                                                                    
                            Committee meeting to discuss the                                                                    
                            Department of Education & Early                                                                     
                            Development's Foundation Formula.  He                                                               
                            introduced the Special Committee on                                                                 
                            Education's Chair-Representative Carl                                                               
                            Gatto, and the House Health, Education &                                                            
                            Social Services Committee Chair-                                                                    
                            Representative Peggy Wilson.                                                                      
 057 EDDY JEANS, MANGER, Provided Committee members with (2)                                                                    
      SCHOOL FINANCE AND    handouts.  (Copies on File).  He                                                                    
      FACILITIES SECTION, referenced the schedule attached at the                                                               
      DEPARTMENT OF         end of document #1.  He encouraged                                                                  
      EDUCATION AND EARLY Committee members to ask questions during                                                             
      DEVELOPMENT           the overview.  He requested that the                                                                
                            presentation be kept to just the                                                                    
                            foundation funding program as it is today                                                           
                            without discussing the changes over time.                                                         
 239 Mr. Jeans              Commented that current public school                                                                
                            funding formula was adopted under SB 36                                                             
                            in 1998.  It was implemented in 1999 and                                                            
                            the public school funding formula was                                                               
                            defined in AS 14.17.  He stated that the                                                            
                            overview would provide an overview of the                                                         
                            calculation of the Average Daily                                                                    
                            Membership (ADM) and the calculation of                                                             
                            basic need and the components of basic                                                              
                            need regarding who pays, state, local or                                                            
                            federal.                                                                                          
352 Mr. Jeans               The ADM is the number of students                                                                   
                            enrolled during the 20-day count period                                                             
                            that ends on the fourth Friday in                                                                   
                            October.  The reports are due into the                                                              
                            Department within 2-weeks of the 20-day                                                             
                           count period.                                                                                      
422 Co-Chair Harris         Asked for a definition of 'enrolled in'.                                                          
430 Mr. Jeans               Explained that the enrollment was based                                                             
                            on students enrolled in the public                                                                  
                            schools and not actually attending during                                                           
                            that 20-day period.                                                                               
450 Representative          Inquired how would the district 'project'                                                           
      Kapsner               the number of students for the following                                                            
                            year.                                                                                             
459 Mr. Jeans               Advised that Department of Education &                                                              
                            Early Development does not do the student                                                           
                            projection.  That is done at the local                                                              
                            level and then provides that information                                                            
                            to the Department.                                                                                
513 Representative          Questioned how would each school district                                                           
      Kapsner               make that determination.                                                                          
532 Mr. Jeans               Explained that the school districts do                                                              
                            not have a prescribed method from the                                                               
                            Department.  Some use complex formulas                                                              
                            and some use the actual data from the                                                               
                            current year.  There is a variety of                                                                
                            ways.                                                                                             
558 Representative Croft  Asked if the projection matters.  He                                                                  
                            asked what the formula does with the                                                                
                            projected amount.                                                                                 
602 Mr. Jeans               Replied that the Department prepares the                                                            
                            State budget for the next year using that                                                           
                            information.                                                                                      
621 Mr. Jeans               Explained that the school districts                                                                 
                            provide their estimated count based on                                                              
                            the information that they have available.                                                           
                            The Department takes that information and                                                           
                            runs it through the size adjustment                                                                 
                            tables.  That information is for the                                                                
                            purpose of developing the State budget.                                                             
                            If there are large swings in the                                                                    
                            information provided, then the Department                                                           
                            goes back to the district for an                                                                    
                            explanation. For the most part, the                                                                 
                            districts have a minimal change in their                                                            
                            enrollment.                                                                                       
723 Representative Croft  If there actual amount is different than                                                            
                            the projected, would it have an effect on                                                           
                            the formula.                                                                                      
 736 Mr. Jeans              Commented that addresses how the                                                                    
                            districts are actually reimbursed.  The                                                             
                            projection provides an appropriation that                                                           
                            is held.  For the  first nine months of                                                             
                                                                th                                                              
                            the current year, they receive 1/12 of                                                              
                            their entitlement from the previous year.                                                         
 810 Representative Croft  Asked about the correspondence numbers                                                               
                            and the student ADM count.                                                                        
 821 Mr. Jeans              Replied that a correspondent student was                                                            
                            funded at 80%.                                                                                    
 831 Co-Chair Williams      Asked about home-schooled students.                                                               
 840 Mr. Jeans              Could not say that the State funds home                                                             
                            schooled students.  The State does fund                                                             
                            correspondence students.                                                                          
 860 Representative         Commented if the projected ADM was a                                                                
      Wilson                certain amount and the school did not                                                               
                            have close to that amount, would that                                                               
                            school receive less  than what they had                                                             
                            planned on.                                                                                       
 928 Mr. Jeans              Replied that under the current foundation                                                           
                            formula, that is  what would happen and                                                             
                            they would receive  less based on their                                                             
                            actual student count.                                                                             
 942 Representative         Asked if there was any type of protection                                                           
      Wilson                or safeguard to help them.                                                                        
 958 Mr. Jeans              Stated that there was no "hold harmless"                                                            
                            provision to act as a safety guard.                                                               
 1012 Representative Gara  Asked if in Anchorage, Charter School                                                                
                            students were treated as correspondence                                                             
                            students.                                                                                         
 1029 Mr. Jeans             Replied that would depend in what program                                                           
                            that they were enrolled in.  Not all the                                                            
                            charter schools are home school based                                                               
                            programs.                                                                                         
 1042 Representative Gara  Is it left up to the Department to 'make                                                             
                            a call' to determine  if the program is                                                             
                            run like a correspondence or home school                                                            
                            program.                                                                                          
 1053 Mr. Jeans             Replied that was correct.                                                                         
 1100 Mr. Jeans             Addressed who qualifies as a student.                                                               
                            The child must be  six years old before                                                             
                                     th                                                                                         
                            August 15 and/or is under the age of 20-                                                            
                            years old.  The Special Education                                                                   
                            Programs must serve students from the                                                               
                            ages of 3 through 22 years old.                                                                   
 1126 Mr. Jeans             Noted that there are five steps in                                                                  
                            adjusting the school  districts average                                                             
                            daily membership.                                                                                   
                               · Look at the school and run it                                                                  
                                 through the school size adjustment                                                           
                                 table                                                                                          
                              · Apply the district cost factor                                                                  
                              · Increase that number by 20% for                                                                 
                                 special needs funding                                                                          
                              · Intensive service counts for the                                                                
                                 severely multi handicapped children                                                            
                              · District correspondence count for                                                               
                                 the districts adjusted ADM                                                                   
1215 Mr. Jeans              School size adjustment.  For each school                                                            
                            in the district subtract from the ADM all                                                           
                            correspondence counts.  Adjust the                                                                  
                            remaining ADM of each school using the                                                              
                            school size factor table.                                                                           
                              · A community with an ADM under 10:                                                               
                                 Added to the smallest school with an                                                           
                                 ADM greater than 10;                                                                           
                              · A community with an ADM from 10-100:                                                            
                                 Grades K-12 ADM combined and                                                                   
                                 adjusted once, adjusted as one                                                                 
                                 school;                                                                                        
                              · A community with an ADM from 101-                                                               
                                 425: ADM for grades K-6 and 7-12 are                                                           
                                 adjusted separately; adjusted as two                                                           
                                 schools;                                                                                       
                              · A community with an ADM greater than                                                            
                                 425: Each facility administered as                                                             
                                 one school, counted as one school,                                                             
                                 ADM is adjusted as one school;                                                                 
                                 Alternative schools with an ADM of                                                             
                                 less than 200 combined are adjusted                                                            
                                 with the school with the greatest                                                              
                                 ADM in the district; If an                                                                     
                                 alternative school ADM is greater                                                              
                                 than 200, the ADM will be adjusted                                                             
                                 once; A charter school with an ADM                                                             
                                 of 150 or greater will be adjusted                                                             
                                 once.                                                                                          
                              · Using the proper formula from the                                                               
                                 school size factor table, calculate                                                            
                                 the adjusted ADM for each school.                                                            
1325 Representative         Asked how the special needs factor would                                                            
      Kapsner               apply to the 20% block factor.                                                                    
1345 Mr. Jeans              Advised that the special needs factor is                                                            
                            the 20% block funding.                                                                            
1358 Representative         Asked what would happen for a district                                                              
      Kapsner               that currently has a much higher need.                                                            
1404 Mr. Jeans              Emphasized that they would only be funded                                                           
                            at 20% regardless of what the special                                                               
                            needs in that district are.                                                                       
1414 Representative Gatto  Asked about the ADM's slide.  He asked                                                               
                            what would happen in a community that had                                                         
                            multiple schools with ADM's under 100 or                                                            
                            over 500.  He asked if the referenced was                                                           
                            to the community  or each school in the                                                             
                            community.                                                                                        
 1445 Mr. Jeans             Replied that the first thing that the                                                               
                            Department looks at is the overall                                                                  
                            student population in that community.                                                               
                            That provides the  information regarding                                                            
                            how many schools  will be run through that                                                          
                            size adjustment  table.  A community could                                                          
                            actually have a  number of schools, but if                                                          
                            they have less than 425 students in that                                                            
                            community, that  will be run through the                                                            
                            size adjustment table.                                                                            
 1526 Representative Gatto  Commented that it would be like a virtual                                                           
                            school for the purposes of allocating                                                               
                            funding.                                                                                          
 1536 Representative        If the district has 3 schools, they would                                                           
      Wilson                only get paid for 2, and if they have one                                                           
                            school, they get paid for 2.                                                                      
 1558 Mr. Jeans             Replied that the foundation entitlement                                                             
                            is calculated as if they have 2.                                                                  
 1604 Representative        Clarified that if there were less than                                                              
      Wilson                425 students, and they had 3 schools,                                                               
                            they would only  be paid for 2 schools.                                                           
 1620 Representative Croft  Asked if the formula was attempting to                                                              
                            encourage schools in that range.                                                                  
 1643 Mr. Jeans             Responded that the breaking points exist,                                                           
                            because when the  foundation program was                                                            
                            rewritten as SB  36, there were a number                                                            
                            of decisions that  had been made in the                                                             
                            past regarding the structuring of                                                                   
                            schools.  To insure  that the districts                                                             
                            were getting an appropriate level of                                                                
                            funding, the intent  was not to penalize                                                            
                            districts for passing  decisions of how                                                             
                            the students were being 'housed'.                                                                   
                            Consequently, the  range factor was put                                                             
                            into place to assist driving revenue.                                                             
 1734 Representative        Asked what would happen in a school                                                                 
      Wilson                system in which there are 3 schools, and                                                            
                            that they are all  small enough that you                                                            
                            could not get them into 2 schools.                                                                
 1748 Mr. Jeans             Replied that they would need to operate                                                             
                            within their means.                                                                               
 1801 Representative        Commented that the school would be                                                                  
      Wilson                basically 'stuck'.                                                                                
 1807 Mr. Jeans             Responded that in some of the                                                                       
                            communities, there  were larger student                                                             
                            populations, which required a greater                                                               
                            number of schools.  As community's                                                                  
                            student population  declines, the school                                                          
                            district needs to make decisions if they                                                            
                            need to operate that many schools.  When                                                            
                            the community falls within the range of                                                             
                            101-425, the State has made it clear that                                                           
                            they will fund that district as if it                                                               
                            were operating 2 schools.                                                                         
1901 Representative         Asked what would happen if they cannot do                                                           
      Wilson                that.                                                                                             
1910 Mr. Jeans              Acknowledged that was correct.                                                                    
1921 Mr. Jeans              Noted that they had taken the Nome City                                                             
                            school district to base the presented                                                               
                            calculations. He noted that they reported                                                           
                            that they have an elementary population                                                             
                            of 425 students; high school with 305;                                                              
                            charter school currently serving 42                                                                 
                            students; and the Nome Youth facility                                                               
                            that has 12 students.  The district has                                                             
                            over the 425 minimum number.  Each school                                                           
                            will be funded through the size                                                                     
                            adjustment table with the exception of                                                              
                            the charter school.                                                                               
2011 Representative Croft  Asked how the Department would deal with                                                             
                            the youth facility.                                                                               
2020 Mr. Jeans              The Department decided to fund youth                                                                
                            facilities around the State as separate                                                             
                            sites because those sites are operating                                                             
                            on a year-round basis.                                                                            
2043 Representative         Asked in that instance, would they get                                                              
      Wilson                paid for three buildings.                                                                         
2056 Mr. Jeans              Replied that was correct.                                                                         
2101 Mr. Jeans              He added that the alternative school                                                                
                            would be added to the school with the                                                               
                            largest ADM.                                                                                      
2124 Mr. Jeans              He referenced the school size adjustment                                                            
                            statute.  Using those numbers, the                                                                  
                            adjusted ADM school size would be 514.                                                            
2215 Co-Chair Harris        Asked why the extra students were only                                                              
                            worth 92% funding.                                                                                
2231 Mr. Jeans              Replied that was correct.  The purpose is                                                           
                            that as you move through the scale, there                                                           
                            is a benefit of an economy of scales.                                                             
2236 Co-Chair Harris        He noted that over 400 students, the                                                                
                            students would be taught 'cheaper'.  Mr.                                                            
                            Jeans noted that once you get over the                                                              
                            400 that would be a correct assumption.                                                           
2300 Representative Gatto  Asked why there was no allocation for any                                                            
                            school with exactly 750 students.                                                                 
2336 Mr. Jeans              State that to take the 750 through the                                                              
                            funding formula, there would be 793.6 for                                                           
                            that school with this formula.                                                                    
2351 Mr. Jeans              The next adjustment would be to the 305                                                             
                            students and with the computations for                                                            
                            adjustment to the ADM, providing for                                                                
                            379.45.                                                                                           
 2420 Mr. Jeans             Continued, the last adjustment for school                                                           
                            size would be the youth facility, with 12                                                           
                            students, which falls into the range of                                                             
                            10-20, providing for the base allocation                                                            
                            of $39.60.  The adjusted ADM for school                                                             
                            size for Nome would be 933.                                                                       
 2455 Mr. Jeans             Spoke to the district cost factor. The                                                              
                            Department of Education & Early                                                                     
                            Development is required to monitor and                                                              
                            report on the district cost factors to                                                              
                            the legislature every other year.  Those                                                            
                            numbers are laid out in statute and are                                                             
                            specific to each school district.  Those                                                            
                            numbers range from 1.0 - 1.736.                                                                   
 2531 Co-Chair Harris       Asked about the latest district cost                                                                
                            factor for a school less than 1.                                                                  
 2546 Mr. Jeans             Replied that Mat-Su was at .99.  That                                                               
                            study would indicate .99 not 1.                                                                   
 2607 Representative        Asked if the Legislature would receive a                                                            
      Wilson                "district cost factor" this year.                                                                 
 2622 Mr. Jeans             Explained that the Legislature had                                                                  
                            contracted out for their own study.  When                                                           
                            SB 36 was passed, the Department was                                                                
                            required to do a report that covered                                                                
                            three areas:                                                                                        
                               · District costs factors                                                                         
                               · Comparison of the old formula to the                                                           
                                new                                                                                             
                               · Adequacy                                                                                       
                            The Department did that report two years                                                            
                            ago.  The Department attempted to use the                                                           
                            McDowell methodology but it was not                                                                 
                            successfully funded.  The Legislature                                                               
                            then contracted for the study.                                                                    
 2736 Representative        Hoped that the Department would have some                                                           
      Wilson                recommendations that could be compared to                                                           
                            the private study.  Mr. Jeans understood                                                            
                            that study would take the place of the                                                              
                            one provided by the Department.                                                                   
 2802 Representative        Asked when would there be a discussion in                                                           
      Kapsner               full regarding the cost study.                                                                    
 2816 Co-Chair Harris       Replied in the future.                                                                            
 2822 Mr. Jeans             Continued, the school size adjustment for                                                           
                            Nome was 933; the district cost factor is                                                           
                            1.319.  The adjusted ADM after the cost                                                             
                            factor is 1,231.                                                                                  
 2831 Mr. Jeans             The next adjustment is for special needs,                                                           
                            20% block funding allocation for                                                                    
                            categorical programs.  To qualify for the                                                           
                            funding, the district must submit a plan                                                          
                            to the Department on how they intend to                                                             
                            utilize those funds.  The districts all                                                             
                            did that in 1999.                                                                                 
2907 Co-Chair Harris        Noted that in his district there are many                                                           
                            Russians who do not speak English well.                                                             
                            They would be considered bilingual.  He                                                             
                            emphasized that they are a huge                                                                     
                            percentage of the students.  He asked if                                                            
                            20% was the maximum that any school could                                                           
                            receive.                                                                                          
2946 Mr. Jeans              Replied that it is a flat 20% block                                                                 
                            funding and that the Department cannot                                                              
                            give more.                                                                                        
3004 Representative         Asked the projected need of each                                                                    
     Kapsner               district.  She pointed out that some                                                                 
                            districts do not have a 20% need and some                                                           
                            districts have a much greater need.                                                               
3023 Mr. Jeans              Replied that he could not do provide that                                                           
                            information.  The way that the school                                                               
                            districts report their expenses is under                                                            
                            one category called instruction.  Special                                                           
                            education is the only category that is                                                              
                            broken out separately.                                                                            
3054 Representative         Questioned where the Legislature could                                                              
      Kapsner               get that information.                                                                             
3107 Mr. Jeans              Responded that the Department would have                                                            
                            to collect it from each individual                                                                  
                            district assuming that the district was                                                             
                            tracking the individual programs.                                                                 
3118 Co-Chair Harris        Stated that on February 19th at 1:30                                                                
                            p.m., there will be a meeting to discuss                                                            
                            cost differential concerns.                                                                       
3139 Mr. Jeans              Continued that the special needs                                                                    
                            adjustment was a 20% block allocation.                                                              
                            He referenced the new adjusted ADM of                                                               
                            1,478.                                                                                            
3153 Mr. Jeans              School districts receive funding for                                                                
                            intensive special education students                                                                
                            that:                                                                                               
                              · Are receiving intensive services                                                                
                              · Are enrolled on the last day of the                                                             
                                 20 school day count period                                                                     
                              · Have an established Individual                                                                  
                                 Education Plan (IEP)                                                                           
                            The districts intensive student count is                                                            
                            multiples by five.  Each student enrolled                                                           
                            in the district generates $20,050                                                                   
                            dollars.  Nome identified one student.                                                            
3232 Representative         Asked for a breakdown of each step and                                                              
      Wilson                how it coordinates with each letter of                                                              
                            the formula.                                                                                      
3252 Mr. Jeans              Advised that Step 1 would correspond with                                                         
                            column O, step #2-Q, step #3-R, step #4-                                                            
                            T, and step #5-B.                                                                                 
 3433 Mr. Jeans             Stated that correspondence funded                                                                   
                            programs are calculated by multiplying                                                              
                            the ADM by 80%.                                                                                   
 3457 Representative Gara  Inquired about the adjustment for special                                                            
                            needs students versus intensive need                                                                
                            students.                                                                                         
 3514 Mr. Jeans             The intensive need student is multiplied                                                            
                            times 5, and the 20% block funding is                                                               
                            added on after the adjustment for the                                                               
                            cost factor and the school size.  It is                                                             
                            the entire population after those                                                                   
                            adjustments.                                                                                      
 3545 Representative Gara  Asked if it was assumed for special needs                                                            
                            students that every district would                                                                  
                            receive the 20% adjustment.                                                                       
 3554 Mr. Jeans             Stated that was true.  He offered to                                                                
                            explain the previous funding formula at                                                             
                           another time.                                                                                      
 3611 Mr. Jeans             The next step is to calculate the                                                                   
                            district's entitlement under the                                                                    
                            foundation formula for basic need.  For                                                             
                            Nome, that number would be $5,947,472                                                               
                            dollars.                                                                                          
 3648 Mr. Jeans             The next slide summarizes the steps taken                                                           
                            to achieve that amount.                                                                           
 3704 Mr. Jeans             The adjusted district ADM multiplied by                                                             
                            the base student allocation, $4,010.                                                              
 3736 Mr. Jeans             For the purpose of calculating the normal                                                           
                            required effort, the State will consider                                                            
                            ½ of the increase property value of those                                                           
                            communities.  1999 was established as the                                                           
                            base year.  That number will  help to                                                               
                            determine the 'education full value'.                                                             
 3804 Representative Croft  Asked in those municipalities that have a                                                           
                            tax base and are growing, what would be                                                             
                            the effect.                                                                                       
 3823 Mr. Jeans             They would contribute ½ the growth.                                                               
 3830 Representative Gatto  Asked if the accelerated growth was                                                                 
                            different than linear growth in regard to                                                           
                            the calculations.                                                                                 
 3846 Mr. Jeans             Responded that the discussion was                                                                   
                            regarding any growth.  Many small, first                                                            
                            class municipalities have very little                                                               
                            property growth.  They would continue to                                                            
                            pay based on the old value.                                                                       
 3912 Representative        Asked which communities are growing more                                                            
      Kapsner               quickly.                                                                                          
 3936 Mr. Jeans             Outlined that the calculation is applied                                                            
                            to every school district.                                                                         
 3948 Representative        If a town is growing quickly, they only                                                           
      Wilson                pay 1/2 as much as normal.                                                                        
4016 Mr. Jeans              Replied that was correct.  He added, that                                                           
                            was for any growth.                                                                               
4020 Representative         Additionally, if a community is loosing                                                             
      Wilson                students, do they loose the full or ½                                                               
                            amount.                                                                                           
4034 Mr. Jeans              Responded that the property wealth is not                                                           
                            based on the student population within                                                              
                            the community.  It is based on the value                                                            
                            of taxable real and personal property in                                                            
                            your community.  If the value is                                                                    
                            declining in the community, the mechanism                                                           
                            does not benefit your community.                                                                  
4112 Representative Croft  Questioned who were the "big winners &                                                               
                            losers" in this process.                                                                          
4139 Mr. Jeans              Responded that he would provide that                                                                
                            information.                                                                                      
4150 Mr. Jeans              Pointed out that the full value for Nome                                                            
                            in 2002 was $207 million dollars.  It                                                               
                            changed $15 million dollars in three                                                                
                            years.                                                                                            
4225 Representative Gatto  Interjected that Mat-Su is the fastest                                                               
                            growing community in the State.  That                                                               
                            district has indicated because of the                                                               
                            accelerated growth, the required local                                                              
                            effort has increased disproportionately.                                                          
4302 Mr. Jeans              Discussed that their required local                                                                 
                            effort does increase as the value                                                                   
                            increases.  The taxable property in Mat-                                                            
                            Su has increased and therefore under this                                                           
                            formula, they are required greater                                                                  
                            funding for education.                                                                            
4346 Representative Croft  Asked that in effect with this formula,                                                              
                            the growing communities have a lower tax                                                            
                            base than the others.                                                                             
4412 Mr. Jeans              That is correct.                                                                                  
4421 Representative Gara  Asked about the perceived policy base for                                                             
                            the benefit to the communities that are                                                             
                            growing.                                                                                          
4455 Mr. Jeans              Stated that he could not comment on that.                                                         
4509 Mr. Jeans              Noted that the required local effort is                                                             
                            the lesser of the four mil equivalent on                                                            
                            the education full value.  Not to exceed                                                            
                            45% of a districts basic need for an                                                                
                            entire year.  For those communities that                                                            
                            have a high property wealth, the State                                                              
                            has established a maximum level of local                                                            
                            support for education.  In the above                                                                
                            scenario, Nome would be required to                                                                 
                            contribute 4 mils.                                                                                
4622 Mr. Jeans              Addressed the Title Impact Aid payments.                                                            
                            That aid is counted by the  Federal                                                               
                            dollars received by the district, the                                                               
                            last day of February.                                                                             
 4653 Mr. Jeans             Nome for the purpose of State funding,                                                              
                            would have $49 thousand  dollars available                                                          
                            in federal receipts.  The Impact Aid                                                                
                            Program has a provision in it that                                                                  
                            requires a calculation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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 4700 Mr. Jeans             Continued, impact aid revenues are                                                                  
                            considered local revenues.  However,                                                                
                            local revenues are  treated in the State                                                            
                            funding formula that is how impact aid                                                              
                            will be treated.  For municipalities,                                                               
                            there is a required contribution or mil.                                                            
                            The municipalities are allowed to                                                                   
                            contribute local  revenue over and above                                                            
                            that 4 mils up to 23% of their basic                                                                
                            need.                                                                                             
 4609 Mr. Jeans             Reviewed the impact aid calculations for                                                            
                            Nome: $27,473.                                                                                    
 4435 Representative Croft  Asked if the local schools paid more                                                                
                            minimum would they  then be able to keep                                                            
                            more of the impact aid.  He clarified                                                               
                            that overpayments are retained.                                                                   
 4357 Representative Gatto Noted that if the impact aid was                                                                     
                            equivalent to the  local effort would that                                                          
                            eliminate the local effort.                                                                       
 4327 Mr. Jeans             Responded that it would be in addition to                                                           
                            the required local  effort.  He noted that                                                          
                            the adjustments  are calculated and then                                                            
                            the adjusted ADM  is multiplied by $4010                                                            
                            dollars to determine  the entitled amount.                                                          
                            He stressed that  the he basic need is the                                                          
                            entitlement.                                                                                      
 4257 Representative Gatto  Asked if all communities have some                                                                  
                            required local effort.                                                                            
 4240 Mr. Jeans             Replied that every community has some                                                               
                            kind of required local effort and that                                                              
                            impact aid is considered local effort.                                                              
                            He acknowledged  that there are members of                                                          
                            the Legislature  that disagree with that                                                            
                            analogy.  The money is coming from the                                                              
                            federal government.  He continued                                                                   
                            discussion regarding  the districts that                                                            
                            do not have a required local effort. Mr.                                                            
                            Jeans referenced Page 9.                                                                          
 4114 Representative        Observed that if school districts are                                                               
      Wilson                forced into a borough that the funding                                                              
                            would remain the  same. The required local                                                          
                            contribution would only replace the                                                                 
                            federal impact aid.                                                                               
 4007 Mr. Jeans             Noted that the last three boroughs that                                                           
                            incorporated, those costs were more with                                                            
                            incorporation then through the foundation                                                           
                            formula [prior to incorporation]. He                                                                
                            noted that the fourth borough that                                                                  
                            recently incorporated received more State                                                           
                            aid since its incorporation as they did                                                             
                            not have high property value.                                                                     
3800 Representative         Confirmed that it is illegal to assess                                                              
      Kapsner               property taxes on federal land such as                                                              
                            Native allotments, pointing out that                                                                
                            there is no way to assess property value                                                            
                            on 60 percent of the State of Alaska's                                                              
                            land.  Mr. Jean understood that certain                                                             
                            lands were non-taxable and that is why                                                              
                            those people qualify for impact aid.                                                              
3715 Co-Chair Harris        Pointed out that taxes are not paid on                                                              
                            land where there are military bases.                                                              
3646 Mr. Jeans              Reviewed the additional local                                                                       
                            contribution of a school district, which                                                            
                            can be the greater of 2-mil tax levy or                                                             
                            23 % of the district's current year basic                                                           
                            need. In response to Representative                                                                 
                            Croft, Mr. Jeans stated that local                                                                  
                            contribution could be capped.  Federal                                                              
                            aid is taken into consideration in the                                                              
                            federal impact formula and to do that,                                                              
                            the State has to meet an equalization                                                               
                            test under the federal law.  The                                                                    
                            disparity test clarifies that the State                                                             
                            cannot have more than 25% variance in                                                               
                            revenue between the wealthiest and                                                                  
                            poorest district.                                                                                 
3499 Mr. Jeans              The formula assumes that everyone is                                                                
                            equal at basic need.                                                                              
3440 Representative Gatto  Clarified that the federal government is                                                             
                            attempting to guarantee that the very                                                               
                            wealthy districts do not have an undue                                                              
                            advantage over poor districts.  Thus, the                                                           
                            parameters are established at no more                                                               
                            than 25%.                                                                                         
3403 Mr. Jeans              Reviewed Nome's local effort. The maximum                                                           
                            contribution that Nome will be able to                                                              
                            receive according to calculations is                                                                
                            $2,166,060 dollars.                                                                               
3326 Mr. Jeans              Discussed Quality School Grants.  School                                                            
                            districts must submit a plan to the                                                                 
                            Department regarding how to spend the                                                               
                            funds.  These are targeted funds for                                                                
                            student intervention.  The statute                                                                  
                            clarifies that $16 dollars per adjusted                                                             
                            ADM would be added.  Nome would qualify                                                             
                            for $23, 131 under this program.                                                                  
3252 Mr. Jeans              Addressed the supplemental funding                                                                
                            "floor" bridges the transition between                                                              
                            the old funding formula implemented in                                                              
                            1998 to the new funding formula                                                                     
                            implemented in 1999.                                                                              
 3156 Mr. Jeans             In response to a question by                                                                        
                            Representative Gatto, explained that SB
                            36 targeted funding for student                                                                     
                            intervention programs. He explained that                                                            
                            the number of students had multiplied $16                                                           
                            dollars.                                                                                          
 3043 Representative        Questioned what would have occurred if it                                                           
      Wilson                had been added to the ADM.                                                                        
 3023 Mr. Jeans             Observed that the funding level would                                                               
                            have remained about the same. The                                                                   
                            Legislature directed how the money was to                                                           
                            be spent for to student intervention.                                                             
 2957 Mr. Jeans             He provided members an example of the                                                               
                            supplemental funding floor.  Under 1999                                                             
                            if a district generated $1,100,000 under                                                            
                            the old and $1,000,000 under the new,                                                               
                            they would receive $100,000.                                                                      
 2854 Mr. Jeans             Observed that the intent was to be an                                                               
                            adjustment tool. He reviewed Nome's                                                                 
                           calculations.                                                                                      
 2742 Mr. Jeans             Observed that if there is a decrease                                                                
                            below 95 percent, the floor is decreased                                                            
                            by the same amount.                                                                               
 2709 Mr. Jeans             Reviewed the establishment of Nome City's                                                           
                            school funding floor.  He noted that Nome                                                           
                            would have another increase in FY04,                                                                
                            which would place them on the new funding                                                           
                            floor.                                                                                            
 2610 Representative        Referred to the overall loss of school                                                              
      Kapsner               funds for Nome with the changes in the                                                              
                            formula.                                                                                          
 2515 Mr. Jeans             In response to a question by                                                                        
                            Representative Wilson, Mr. Jeans                                                                    
                            explained that either more students or an                                                           
                            increase in the base student allocation                                                             
                            causes the changes in basic need.  Once                                                             
                            the floor is reached, the funding is                                                                
                            based on what you make through the                                                                  
                            formula.                                                                                          
 2359 Co-Chair Harris       Pointed out that the premise was that the                                                           
                            Legislature felt that some schools were                                                             
                            receiving less than some of the rural                                                               
                            schools.                                                                                          
 2346 Mr. Jeans             Responded that this is only a 'hold                                                                 
                            harmless provision' from a rewrite of the                                                           
                            foundation funding formula.  It is a                                                                
                            transition provision.  It only erodes                                                               
                            when there is an increase in the yearly                                                           
                            entitlement.                                                                                      
2308 Mr. Jeans              Continued, the supplemental funding floor                                                           
                            is a reduction of 40% of the increase                                                               
                            over the prior year.                                                                              
2251 Mr. Jeans              Components of State aid as it relates to                                                            
                            Nome with a total State aid entitlement                                                             
                            of $5,145,000 dollars.  If insufficient                                                             
                            funds are provided by the Legislature to                                                            
                            meet the total entitlement of all                                                                   
                            districts, then the amount is prorated                                                              
                            the programs equally.                                                                             
2233 Mr. Jeans              Concluded his presentation on the                                                                   
                            foundation-funding program.                                                                       
2220 Representative Gatto  Question regarding the funding floor and                                                             
                            asked why some children are only worth                                                              
                            60% of other children.  He asked if the                                                             
                            funding floor had changed in the last 4                                                             
                            years that had changed that.                                                                      
2137 Mr. Jeans              That is a 'misperception' that some                                                                 
                            students are only worth 60%.  The funding                                                           
                            floor is transition provision from the                                                              
                            old to the new funding floor.  In                                                                   
                            reality, districts have changed the                                                                 
                            amount they receive from the funding                                                                
                            floor.                                                                                            
2050 Representative Gatto  Asked if the State had followed through.                                                           
2039 Mr. Jeans              Emphasized that the State is still                                                                  
                            following through; however, Nome has hit                                                            
                            the end of their transition.                                                                      
2024 Co-Chair Harris        Applauded the presentation presented by                                                             
                            Mr. Jeans.                                                                                        
1959 Representative Gatto  Echoed his gratitude and noted how                                                                   
                            astounding it was, the amount of work it                                                            
                            took to agree on a foundation formula.                                                            
1935 Co-Chair Harris        ADJOURNMENT:                                                                                      
                            The meeting was adjourned at 12:52 P.M.                                                           
                                                                                                                                

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